Becoming Heart Strong isn’t about what you’ve built or what broke you—it’s about who you’ve become. Hosted by Jess Lindberg, this podcast invites leaders, founders, and everyday changemakers into honest conversations about the challenges that shape us—and the strength we forge through them. These aren’t surface-level interviews. They’re vulnerable, grounded, and real. We talk about the losses, pivots, breakthroughs, and decisions that transformed not just someone’s path, but their character and lives. Because it’s not what happened to you or what you’ve accomplished that defines you—it’s who you choose to become, and what you create from the hard things. Every episode goes beyond the story to offer tools, strategies, and insights—especially from experts—to help you grow stronger in your own life. You’ll leave with not just inspiration, but practical ways to take your next step. If you’re ready to grow through what you go through, lead with heart, and live with deeper courage, this show is for you.
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Wednesday Sep 25, 2024
Wednesday Sep 25, 2024
Dr. Ben Baran, an organizational psychologist and management professor, discusses adversity and leadership. He defines crucibles as unexpectedly hard experiences that have the potential to transform us. He emphasizes the importance of recognizing that suffering is universal and that we are not alone in our challenges. Dr. Baran also explores the synergy between social science and ancient wisdom, highlighting the value of integrating evidence-based research with philosophical and theological insights. In terms of leadership, he emphasizes the need for leaders to have a deep sense of purpose and strong values, as well as the willingness to make tough decisions even when they are unpopular. He also discusses the challenges of developing courageous leadership and the importance of character development in children.
The conversation covers various themes, including leadership, self-leadership, trust in leaders, the importance of institutions, the role of the U.S. Constitution, and the power of service and making an impact. The guests share personal experiences and insights, emphasizing the need for self-awareness, values, and character development in leadership. They discuss the challenges and blessings of raising children and the importance of instilling values and a sense of agency in them. The conversation also touches on the significance of September 11th and the impact of personal crucibles on shaping individuals and their ability to empathize and help others.
00:00 Introduction: Adversity and Leadership
03:31 Crucibles: Transforming Through Unexpected Challenges
16:19 The Synergy Between Social Science and Ancient Wisdom
31:22 Developing Courageous Leadership: Purpose, Values, and Tough Decisions
36:45 Character Development: Fostering Courageous Leadership in Children
41:03 The Foundation of Leadership: Self-Leadership and Values
43:19 The Importance of Trust in Leaders and Institutions
49:14 Raising Courageous Leaders: Instilling Values and Agency in Children
59:41 The Impact of Personal Crucibles on Empathy and Influence
01:10:47 Service and Making an Impact: Bringing Joy and Inspiring Others
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