
There’s a 100% chance you will face challenges in your life and in the world around you. The truth is you already are. But it’s not what happens to us that defines us; it’s how we respond that marks our lives. Becoming Heart Strong explores how we can live with more courage, rebuild after setbacks, and strengthen ourselves from the inside out. Host Jess Lindberg interviews thought leaders, authors, experts, and everyday amazing people who’ve turned their struggles into movements, businesses, and inspiring stories. What have they learned? How have they grown? And what can we take from their experiences to help us with our own struggles? Their stories and insights will help you move from where you are today to where you want to be tomorrow. Jess Lindberg, who hosts The Becoming Heart Strong Podcast, is a coach, strategist, keynote speaker, and social entrepreneur passionate about inspiring people to grow through their challenges and live their full potential. On her show, she dives into transformative conversations and invites listeners to live with courage, overcome setbacks, and create meaningful impact in their world. As a sought-after life leadership expert and strategist, Jess works with purpose-driven individuals and organizations seeking to transform and create impact from unexpected circumstances. Jess has built powerful resilience through personal traumas and aims to help others build their resilience muscle through courageous self-leadership. Her warm, down-to-earth style and inspiring spirit have ignited the hearts and minds of many organizations and individuals. Follow Jess @jessmlindberg on Instagram and Jessica Lindberg on LinkedIn Follow The Heart Strong @theheartstrong on Instagram and The Heart Strong Collective on LinkedIn
Episodes

Wednesday Nov 06, 2024
78. Creating Systemic Change and Embracing Nuance with Sarah Freiesleben
Wednesday Nov 06, 2024
Wednesday Nov 06, 2024
In this conversation, Jessica Lindberg and Sarah Freiesleben explore the complexities of systemic change, emphasizing the importance of healthy conflict within teams, the challenges of navigating entrenched systems, and the need for curiosity and nuance in discussions. They discuss the moral implications of our current societal issues and the need for self-leadership and personal values to drive change. The conversation highlights the importance of seeing individuals as more than just their viewpoints and the collective responsibility we share in addressing systemic problems.
Sarah and Jessica explore narratives in political and organizational contexts, the challenges of speaking up within organizations, and the importance of embracing nuance and diverse perspectives. They discuss the characteristics of effective leaders, the role of courage in decision-making, and how sensitivity can be a strength in leadership. The conversation emphasizes the need for curiosity, respectful disagreement, and the value of understanding oneself and others in fostering a positive organizational culture.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Systemic Change
03:03 The Role of Healthy Conflict in Teams
05:51 Navigating Change in Complex Systems
09:05 Incentives and Resistance to Change
11:47 Controlling What You Can Control
14:55 The Importance of Curiosity and Nuance
17:53 The Moral Issue of Our Time
21:06 Embracing Paradox and Complexity
23:58 Influencing Change at a Local Level
26:57 The Meta-Crisis and Collective Responsibility
30:06 Self-Leadership and Personal Values
33:07 Seeing People as Individuals
38:08 The Power of Narratives in Politics and Work
41:28 The Dilemma of Speaking Up in Organizations
43:01 Embracing Nuance and Diverse Perspectives
45:31 Conflict Resolution and Finding Common Ground
50:18 Characteristics of Effective Leaders
55:03 Courage in Leadership and Decision-Making
01:02:40 The Role of Sensitivity and Embodiment in Leadership
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